| Your Say |
| According to a national swinging magazine, the partner-swapping
scene is far from flat. In fact, it is booming in Melbourne where
about 15 swinging parties are thrown most weekends.
How about it? Harmless fun, or something more dangerous? |
I myself having been with my girlfriend for five years would not think of
such a thing, although people make their own choices and I respect that whatever
they may be.
At the same time, PERPLEXED if someone tried to push their own MORALS OR BELIEFS
onto me I would be the first to give them an earful
People can make their own decisions...
MINDING MY OWN BUSINESS
I think it is up to the couples involved, my wife and I (21 & 23) have regular threesomes and group sex, I love watch her having sex and filming it, we are not hurting anyone so who cares?.
Moose
My delema..
I am a married bisexual women, who is Sexually frustrated! I think about all
sorts of sexual acts, and I even get off on the thought of watching my husband
have passionate sex with another woman. But unfortunately I can't get past the
fear of the consequences if it actually happened. I would love to be able to get
over my hang ups and trust my husband enough to be able to fulfill many of my
fantasy's. I even worry when I tell him some of my thoughts he might get the
idea that its ok to have an affair. I sound pretty pathetic I think, here I am
with a wild imgaination and desire and too hang ups to let me out!
I can see both sides I guess, everyone should do what they feel comfortable with
as long as they don't hurt anyone else in the process.
Think but can't act
Dear Roy,
This whole business about not imposing one's morals upon others is not reality.
The reality is that people are always influencing others.
So why is it that a hedonist spreading their view is completely acceptable, yet
a manogomist spreading their view is called imposing morals on others. This is
hypocrisy.
perplexed
I must agree with the article. It seems every time I go out with my gf in
Melbourne, I end up stumbling accross some time of sex party or
"orgy".
The way I see it, whether you are gay or straight, everyone can have alot of fun
at these events.
Sometimes, I even bring these ideas to work with me and try them out on my
collegues, which impresses them somewhat. Now they're keen to join me.
Bring on more parties I say
Djamel Cee
Not trying to enforce my 'views' to anyone but I am glad that I have my wife and I plan to only stay with my wife. With that in mind, I am confident I will be free of any diseases, and any social regret should anything out of the ordinary that might happen.
One partner only and happy with that
Kak bloke
You kidder. You "made love" to a woman - who was having sex with
another guy. And you didn't see her face.
We better ask you what is your definition of "love". If "love at
first sight" for you is with a woman turned away from you, already having
sex with another guy - it means your first sight is real real bad.
So bad it may not have even been your mate's mum. Could have been the dad.
Nick the Greek
From the Book of Melbourne, chapter 12:
21. The LORD looked down upon Sodom, and saw the Great Evil that was there. And
the LORD spake, saying, 'I told you to do unto others as you would have them do
unto you, but *that* is not what I had in mind!' And the LORD did smite the
sinners mightily, and frogs did rain down upon Ringwood, and a plague of asps
afflicted Mount Martha.
22. And woe was on the faces of the innocent there; for though they were sorely
tried by the LORD's mighty wrath, the sodomites and catamites and adulterers and
fornicators did continue their foul deeds, so busy were they. And the frogs and
asps were made use of, yea verily, in an unnatural manner.
23. And a visitor from Sydney was heard to say, 'Mount Martha? Hey, yeah!'
Reverend Dr Phil
Thom, I would argue that those who "swing" are not in a monogamous
relationship anyhow. So "divorce" for a swinger is entirely relative
to their understanding of what they consider "marriage" ie a union of
two persons to the exclusion of all others voluntarily entered into for life
(Australian Marriage Act and most Christian churches definition), or a temprory
union of two people with interuptions by mutual consent of two other couples???
Most monogomous relationships would class any sexual violation of the
relationship by third parties as a breaksown of "marriage" and firm
grounds for "divorce". This would lead naturally to a higher
"divorce" rate statistic, assuming divorce was for or the result of a
realtionship with a third party. If sexual relationships with a third party are
acceptable then you would have to redefine "marriage" before you could
compare divorce rates. In short--you need to compare apples with apples. It
would be more valid and interesting to see if "Cheating" on your
partner in a monogomous relationship, and "cheating" on your partner
in a swinging relationship leads in both cases to a similar divorce rate.
Cheers
Paul C
Aren't we missing the point here?
These parties are only for physically attractive people- ugly people not
allowed.
As an ugly person myself I can tell you the real barrier here is physical
unattractiveness - this is the one attribute that will never be accepted. Its
all very well talking about "breaking down the barriers" and loosening
people inhibitions when the final, most revolting taboo of all - being ugly,
will never be explored or explained, let alone accepted.
Too all you "liberated" people out there, go on, admit the truth. You
hate ugly people.
David Beattie
Plissken,
when we leave the kids, we do what most parents do - sleep! That most coveted of
all human pleasures!
If we're lucky, we might even have a frolic in the garden... but who's got time
these days to do some weeding?
Larry Flynt
This is a classic example of one lot telling the other how to live their
lives. Who cares, as long as people realise their is a cause and effec, and
happy to live with the consequences, why should anyone tell others how to live
their lives??!!
This might sound simple minded but you cannot impose morals (figment of ones
imagination based on upbringing) on others.
If it doesn't turn you on or tried and have not worked for you don't do it...
but those who enjoy it go for it I say!!
Roy Edward
I do not agree at all with the statement ..."Monogamy is something that
nobody really wants, deep down inside"
Can you really believe this? Seioursly... for all aspects of your marriage, not
just Sexual fulfilment?
I think that when you look at the top 5 needs for both Men & Women, you will
find things like..
Affection, Financial Support, Recreational Companionship, Conversation, Sexual
Fulfilment, Family Commitment, Admiration & Respect, An Attractive Spouse,
Honesty & Openness, & Domestic Support...
You can't be having sex every minute of the day... what about all these other
important needs? I think that they can't be properly fulfilled without a
monogomous mariage, anything else will work to destroy these other (more
important) needs not help them.
Seriously... if all you have is this wonderful sexual life, & you are overly
focused on sexual fulfillment... what does that say for the rest of your life?
David Martin
Sounds more like an animal behaviour.. fun without commitment, eat and sleep.
Human
Plissken, the parties are referred to in the article aren't held in the homes
of swingers, they are held at a specific location.
if it's not for you, gold star, but don't assume you know how others handle
their own personal swinging situations.
D French